Try to post the charts so see a visual! Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. It would simply be different. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. I get into this discussion a lot with people. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. We have no moon aspects will this help? Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. It is not pretty at all. Hey there! Please, keep giving your opinion. It is sad! I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. Thanks for your help Amiann. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. That is what I was saying. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. 5. I do charts for the people who want them. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. Eros in a synastry chart. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. or you consider just the closer orbit? Im pluto and he is the moon. 10. That doesnt mean youve never been married. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. But interested to see how things unfold. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. Thank you so much, Love. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. My Pluto opposite his Moon. You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. This isn't always a bad thing, however. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? I have to always be honest. What are your thoughts? To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. Wow. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . To me, it always is. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. Its not a square but there isnt much info out there on the conjunction. However, there is a flip side. My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Is this a synastry, Ariel? Thanks :), The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. It is valued! His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. It is really rocking my world right now <3. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. Is it a similar power to the conjunction? Im curious about that conjunction to my crushs NN, though..do you really think it could mean something? Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. . Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. The charts tell all. I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. Groom conjunct the Vertex. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? Who would bring who abuse? It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. This is a general rule, my Friend. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. The chart never lies, my Friend. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. My Nessus square his Venus Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. What is your opinion on Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. Is this you? Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! I am prone to being attacked in this way. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. Thanks! I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. The chart allows one to see oneself. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. YES. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. Thank you Ivs. Thank you for your reply. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. What about this aspects? 8. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. Next: Synastry Books Compared . I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. Venus mars aspects If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. Hi, I feel like it helps me. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. However, if you want me to help you to find Jesus, that is why I am here. In my opinion, it will play out. Could it be a past life meaning? Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. This question would need me to see the whole chart because what I do is put it all together and come out with a practical answer. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). 4. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. I mean, a persons life is complicated. . Thank you Ariel! For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Chiron conj the Sun is not sexy. I would have to consider the scenarios more. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. These are too many questions for text. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. I admire your wisdom. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? Youll have to use your judgement here. You have such a sweet spirit. As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. All of astrology is neutral. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. Who does whom, so to speak? Sorry, lol. That never ceases to amaze me, either! I am not surprised this happened to you. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. Eros is also prominent in their synastry. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. This will be HOT. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. . Sorry for the late reply. It is real to be neutral. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. I wonder what do you think it would happen when nessus conjuncts nessus in synastry. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? crap. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. It is desire, it is passion and love. what would result from this? I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. Check house placement and aspects to further your . Sydney, you are amazing. All this is square my Moon. I am sorry! Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. Come and post the charts. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Your feelings are not fact. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. Lovely, Lo! One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. He was considered irresistible. Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. Thats your opinion. I dont do the Draconic. Does this mean anything? vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? . Eros & Psyche in. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. It is not as intense as the conjunction but very intense, nonetheless. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. Theyre both devoted and kind people and Ive known her since we were teens.
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