... Storm Ciara: Severe gale-force winds set to pummel Scotland. The best thing of all is that, in rough weather, the restaurant will be very quiet which means unrestricted access to the buffet and the food platters not looking like they've been hit by a plague of locusts. However, revisiting the same craft yesterday evening with Phil K, Jim and Davis we all sat at the back, there were no school groups, no obvious signs of those bags and despite the definite presence of the "Incat twist" we all felt fine and had a pleasant crossing to Portsmouth. Shanklin did not have gearboxes and had to stop and restart the engines to go astern. It's as good as many fairground rides. This trip saw the people i was sitting with in the restaurant (and several others) crash to the floor along with their table and all of their food/wine, as well as someone get knocked unconscious in the bar and have to be stretchered away. I always hope for good weather, but have never experienced a gale on BF. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. Re: Chances of a rough ferry crossing from Holyhead to dublin . Politics. Lake Michigan Carferry has canceled its SS Badger crossing for Saturday, Oct. 7. Also, has anyone else ever noticed that when it is clearly going to be a rough crossing, they often seem to forget to do a weather forecast? By I found PA extremely stable but not I have to say as rock steady as MSM. Gale-force winds and rough seas hampered sea crossings Wednesday. I think a lot of that is to do with the shape of her hull.. Rather than deflecting the water straight out, it seems to direct it up the sides of the hull then outwards... Moving around a ferry during very rough weather can be really challenging - especially going up and down stairs. Ferguson Marine shipyard taken into public ownership. I say this because a few years ago we saw sea sickness spread like mass hysteria through the Pompey Express - in reasonable conditions - simply I reckon because a rather downcast and worried looking crew member went round topping up the 'mal de mer' bag racks (and putting piles of bags on the seats) as we set off. The Loch Nevis should be OK in up to force 8, but it very much depends on the wind direction and the state of the tides. Cant remember much of it, only the mess she was in. Both the outbound crossing and esp. I went across the Channel in a Hovercraft many years ago in wind force 7 ( I think that is what it was any way the highest that it would Sail (Fly) it was bumpy but a couple of Gins soon saw it off. How likely are we to run into weather that would cancel a scheduled ferry crossing and/or delay us, when crossing by ferry between Wales and Ireland? All I remember is that it was moving quite and cabin made some creaking noises, but after that I fell asleep again until they had the wake-up music. In our Commodore Cabin all the stuff on the desk was moving with the Ship, and the TV was swinging on it's mount. POLH slams a lot. If you really want to experience strange motion though try the PS Waverley in heavy weather! Irish Ferries has cancelled all further sailings to and from Dublin and Holyhead today (Friday 7 December) on the foot of a Status Orange gale warning for Irish coastal waters and the Irish Sea.. Crossed at the end of 2004 from Caen to Portsmouth, the signs before boarding described the weather as: Once onboard Normandie it was announced access to the exterior decks was prohibited by order of the Captain. Re: Crossing with Brittany Ferries during a gale! After arriving, the Mormon pioneers set up communities and ferry crossings along the trail to assist later wagon trains going to and from Utah. It's your stomach that will object (or not) Nelson was often Sea sick, it just gets at you sometimes. From 1856-60, many European converts walked more than 1,200 miles to Salt Lake City pulling handcarts loaded with 500 pounds of supplies. Irish Ferries have now instructed their booking clerks not to take any further bookings for crossings … Winds of up to severe gale force are expected to sweep the Island overnight. It is when it gets to storm force (10) you need to worry your stomach might start feeling as if you should be somewhere else. We also saw the QE2 on port side as we were eating - she too was going up and down like a yoyo. Be positive and you won't have a problem. Has anyone ever been on Brittany Ferries during a really bad Gale, I have only sailed across the channel on calm weather as I am always paranoid about going across during bad weather as I get seasick. What do you think of the answers? There is still disruption to sailings to Calais by P&O Ferries and SeaFrance, to Dunkirk by Norfolkline, and to Boulogne by SpeedFerries. Various yellow weather warnings for wind, rain and snow have been put in place from Saturday until Tuesday. Watch out for the tell tale wet patches on the carpet ! nburns2004, May 13, 2005 in The Discussion Board. Actually no...the motion was quite unique and unlike anything I've come across since. 8 or 9. the return were rough, force 8 or more i think. 8 months ago. 13 Six lorries tipped over on the deck of a P&O ferry … Moving around a ferry during very rough weather can be really challenging - especially going up and down stairs. :thumbsdow. Shipping forecast and gale warnings map Close dialog In the UK, the Maritime & Coastguard Agency (MCA) is responsible for the provision of Maritime Safety Information (MSI) to ships at sea, which includes the broadcast of warnings and forecasts. I thought there was another member on-board too..! *, (*Holding on for 2 hours in a force 6/7 in a seacat is NOT entertainment). But during the trip, the deck on the opposite side had somehow filled up people being sick. “Brief snow flurries are possible right down to low levels too. The PA has a very strange movement though. The ferry left Holyhead at around 11am, but was left struggling to dock at Dublin Port due to the winds. The swell was huge - Commandant Hardouin had the port search light on so that he could see the huge waves approaching. The ferry operator said that its team had managed to keep services running throughout the night and Tuesday morning despite the stormy weather. Thanks for the replies all, we're sailing BF from Poole to Cherbourg (23.45 crossing) - I guess seasickness is a small price to pay for getting safely across but I'm so not looking forward to it if the travel pills aren't going to cope with the force 9 (having experienced sea sickness for the first time last year) - at least we've got a cabin so all vehicles should be safe! Near Gale: Sea heaps up, waves 13-19 ft, white foam streaks off breakers: Whole trees moving, resistance felt walking against wind: 8: 34-40: Gale: Moderately high (18-25 ft) waves of greater length, edges of crests begin to break into spindrift, foam blown in streaks: Twigs breaking off trees, generally impedes progress: 9: 41-47: Strong Gale Once we got to Channel Islands, there was big motion pretty much all the way to the Isle of Wight. I must say that the Olaus are not good sea keepers. I went from Guernsey to Jersey and back in a force 8 gale on a similar vessel to the Jonathan Swift. Gale force are fairly average in some ares. Mind you we are all good sailors. If anyone would like a more detailed explaination of the above please let me know. However, as i discovered last year, you do not necessarily need strong gales to create a very rough crossing, especially in the Bay of Biscay. The Steam Packet Company says tonight’s sailings have been called off in the face of extreme weather. I estimated 5m wave height, which was hitting Pont beam on. Gale force 8 winds could lead to ferry delays at Port of Dover SUBSCRIBE AND SAVE In all my trips to Sea, the worse conditions I have been in were on Pont going from St Malo to Portsmouth in January. If you are worried, however, then firstly, you should get a good meal inside you as this will help settle your stomach. The last time I was ill on a ship was in February 2004 on a SeaFrance Renoir crossing to Dover in a gale. But it won't last long, a few hours - then just back to normal rain.” Both me and Andy were on-board for that round-trip. 2 years ago on the Mont St. Michel. It was great fun though, and Phil survived!! I've too noticed that the quieter the crossing, in passenger numbers, the less illness you seem to see. Strong gusts meant the Irish Ferries high speed crossings from Holyhead to … I would regard the round trip to Santander in April last year on the Pont-Aven as my roughest overall crossing. Traffic to-and-from the city has been significantly disrupted after gale-force winds toppled two trucks on Friday, causing damage to the structure of the Harbour Bridge. In any case, many of the ships don't seem to have this facility any more. Still have questions? It was blowing a force 8 and this provided my first taste of rough seas. 8. but i have come across on the hi speed in a force 8 gale, and it actually wasnt bad. The PA has a very strange movement though. Report inappropriate content . Cabot Strait crossings will be limited over the next few days,due to gale-force winds The cancellations mean, despite the best of plans, and early reservations on the ferry… Storm Brendan: Gale-force winds leaves ferry passengers stranded in Irish Sea. Mind you, crossing the Irish Sea in a gale in a seacat makes you feel like your in the war, with people using all the toilets, water on the floor, everyone seemingly asleep/dying everywhere, and yourself, eating a nice sandwitch and wanting to use the toilet for its real purpose, and having to hold on because the people in the cubicles won't leave! If it wasnt safe ,why would the authorities allow the ferry to leave or is it a case of buisness first? An announcement said they expect gales and since I spent over 10 hours in the train before I boarded I was very tired, got me something to eat and went to the cabin. The Ben my Chree's 8.45am sailing from Douglas to Heysham and her 2.15pm return trip are both under threat. Moving around too much in rough seas can make me feel dizzy, but not sick, and I prefer to remain in my cabin during such times, just to avoid the puking masses who don't have the good sense to remain in their cabins. Gale warnings are issued as required throughout the day (for winds of Gale Force 8 or more). Gozo Channel has suspended all ferry services between Malta and Gozo until further notice as gale-force winds batter the Maltese Islands. Specifications and equivalent speeds Went through a storm on the Quiberon when I was 3. Gale force are fairly average in some ares. Severe gales forecast at force 8 to 9 were expected at Holyhead promising an "uncomfortable crossing" for passengers, they said. ... having once been on a ferry crossing … The crossing took twice as long and I had an absolute skinful of alcohol. © bfenthusiasts 2020 Contacting passengers. I too agree that seasickness is all in the mind. My last bout of mal de mer (and it was only a little bit, your honour) was on the Normandie Express maiden two months ago when the sea wasn't actually rough but there was a very odd motion to the Incat, the crew were going round with their little white bags behaving like drug pushers, there were people up the front who refused move to the back and a ruddy rowdy school group (plus the VIPs quaffing champagne, lol) so sea sickness spread like wild fire and I succumbed. The cleaners on board are very good at going around and clearing up piles of sick left on the floor by idiotic passengers that can't use a sick bag (of which there are always plenty available). Hmm, yes one or two! If the ship is bigger would there be less movement in a large swell than in a smaller vessel? the return were rough, force 8 or more i think. Heavy rain and gale force winds hit parts of the UK Heavy rain and gale force winds are expected to cause delays to road, rail and ferry passenger, with … Incidentely, I like to use this website to check the swell: I don't know about that but I do know that each ship is different. I was awake for around 5 min. I would not be surprised if the changed weight distribution on what was essentially the same hull accounted for the different motion as Shanklin probably had a higher centre of gravity. Ferries Services Resume Thursday, December 20, 2018 Poor Weather causes BC & Washington Ferry Cancellations After a day of gale force winds and stormy seas, most BC & Washington ferry services have resumed. I think that lends credence to your theory, Millsy. Watch out for the tell tale wet patches on the carpet ! That is she why Brading and Southsea, although 3 years older were favoured for the ferry crossings and Shanklin for the excursions. The Greek government has called the situation a direct threat to national security and imposed emergency measures to carry out swift deportations and freeze asylum applications for one month. 8 or 9 . More from this section It's safe, but be prepared to get seasick. Gale force winds in north Wales have forced high speed ferry sailings to the Republic of Ireland to be cancelled. The skillful captain stabilised the ferry, which was violently swaying from left to right for around 15 minutes, with many looking on in despair as the ship seemed as though it was about to tip over. The worst gales i have seen to date were not on board a Brittany Ferries vessel but on the Color Viking (now the Jupiter) en route from Stavanger to Newcastle, back in October '97. I was fine until other passengers started throwing up on the carpets (why they couldn't at least even attempt to get to the toilets, I don't know. Weather expert Dr Eddy Graham said today: “There's a bit of a (brief) weather 'shock' on the way this evening and tonight (Wed) as northerly winds blast in, with a gale force 8 likely down the Minch. BF didn't really do anything special in honesty, but there wasn't any real need I don't think... aside of course from the well scripted comment at the end... ...'weee 'ope ze weazer weel bee a leetle kinder'. So please don't be paranoid, put previous bad experiences behind you and concentrate on how you are feeling rather than how you expect to feel! Do you use the safety deposit boxes at hotels when on tropical vacations? We have found, though, that manifestations of sea sickness in others can bear little relationship to the actual conditions, just as motion can bear little direct relationship to wind speed alone. Also, Shanklin carried her two lifeboats on gravity davits whilst the other two had them on chocks on deck. I must say that was incredible smooth as it skimmed across the sea. My worst was October/November 1992, Roscoff-Plymouth on Quib. The forecast calls for wind speeds of up to 44 mph and waves of up to 18 feet. However, as i discovered last year, you do not necessarily need strong gales to create a very rough crossing, especially in the Bay of Biscay. A number of Irish sea ferry crossings have been cancelled today following warnings of severe gale force weather. I think we were debating our 'roughest crossings' in another thread some time ago; Its certainly the favourite subject of many enthusiasts it seems. In Hong Kong you'll consume some of the finest food you have ever tasted, you will be surprised by the stunning harbor and you'll sense empowered by a variety of the downtown, the rural and the maritime. The winds were gale force (which we were warned about). Re: Chances of a rough ferry crossing from Holyhead to dublin . Mind you we are all good sailors. Then make sure you have a cabin as the effects of the ship rolling will seem much less if you are lying down, and after a meal in the main restaurant you'll probably sleep well ! Migrants have been reporting being summarily pushed back across the border into Turkey. Commenting earlier, it … A ferry on its way to Naxos Port battled strong waves on Sunday, as gale force winds of up to 8 Beaufort swept the Aegean Sea. I used to be prone to travel sickness, but it's a case of mind over matter and nothing bothers me now, apart from travelling in the back seats of cars and on buses. Thanet was the worst affected area of the county and suffered huge power outages as a result of the gale force winds.. Thousands of residents were without power this morning alongside businesses including Dreamland. m.v. Anyway, i suggest you don't eat anything greasy before sailing, it doesn't go down well, made me nearly get sick. I would regard the round trip to Santander in April last year on the Pont-Aven as my roughest overall crossing. It's only a theory but I put it forward for consideration. I think that lends credence to your theory, Millsy. When standing at the bow alot of creaking and crashing can be heard. *, the old MV Shanklin used to seem to roll with a slow continous motion all the time when under way. To me the old MV Shanklin used to seem to roll with a slow continous motion all the time when under way, while the other two similar IOW boats did not exhibit this phenomenon. Those passengers who were still around told me that if you could stand this, then you'd probably be ok in just about anything. And dramatic footage shows the scale of destruction caused by the trucks overturning in the gale-force gusts. I hope they are right, esepecially as my trip on the Dana Sirena approaches next Wednesday! Are there any countries where anyone over 18 for any reason, mentally unstable and completely healthy, can have euthanasia. Save. We're in a similar position - booked to sail to Islay on 9 Feb, and watching the weather very carefully! Heard people talking about the gales but that´s been all. it should be fine. remember - if it is too unsafe to travel the ferry company won't make the voyage, so you shouldnt have to worry. Powered by Invision Community, Worst I've experienced was a high 8 in Bretagne, ride was a bit lively but she's a good seakeeper and no problems - still went to Les Abers. Bridge or tunnel ‘viable’ replacement for ferry crossing. Strong southeast winds could reach gale force by Saturday evening. Delayed ferry sailings are possible from the Port of Dover tonight and into the morning because of gale force winds. When standing at the bow alot of creaking and crashing can be heard. Lazy and ignorant, I guess) and that made me feel ill then - the combination of having had far too much to drink, the sight, sound and smell of people being ill in close proximity and, I admit, the motion of the ship on top of that. Drink lots of water but avoid coffee. If you are on one of the ships that has an on board medical facility then sea sickness pills are available but, by then, it's probably too late. Crossing with Brittany Ferries during a gale. The best thing of all is that, in rough weather, the restaurant will be very quiet which means unrestricted access to the buffet and the food platters not looking like they've been hit by a plague of locusts. Is it a good idea to travel 6 states away right now to meet a new niece? The cleaners on board are very good at going around and clearing up piles of sick left on the floor by idiotic passengers that can't use a sick bag (of which there are always plenty available). My opinion is that seasickness is all in the mind. CalMac has urged passengers to keep tabs on its website's service updates page for the latest information. If you see lots of people re-living their last meal in front of you, inevitably you will feel sick as well. All passengers are advised to contact the ferry operators. UK Power Networks worked to restore power to these affected areas as quickly as possible and had the … I think my roughest has got to be on the PA last May to Santander and back. It's a hypothesis only so far - but you're right. If you think you will be ill then you almost certainly will be, if you believe you'll be fine then it's even possible to enjoy a rough crossing. It's as good as many fairground rides. Thankfully the crossing was quiet, but most people stayed firmly glued in their seats or cabin as the spray from the waves flew past Deck 8. Get answers by asking now. By mid-afternoon, Northumberland Ferries had cancelled its 6:30 and 9:30 a.m. crossings from Wood Islands and the 8 and 11:15 a.m. from Caribou, N.S., for Friday. However, revisiting the same craft yesterday evening with Phil K, Jim and Davis we all sat at the back, there were no school groups, no obvious signs of those bags and despite the definite presence of the "Incat twist" we all felt fine and had a pleasant crossing to Portsmouth. Does the motion change depending on the size of the ship? I would agree with that, definitely. The return crossing - in worse conditions - where this topping up didn't happen seemed to have many less sufferers. It is when it gets to storm force (10) you need to worry your stomach might start feeling as if you should be somewhere else. If you ask at the information desk on board as soon as you get on board they usually kick in about 30 minutes into the crossing. Hong Kong's mixture of feng shui and finance, trams and temples however fascinate the tourist therefore let your self move and ensure it is possible with Hotelbye com . the op was referring to the snailboat! STORMY seas in the Minch could spark ferry cancellations on the Ullapool-Stornoway crossing later today and overnight. 9. Did this on Condor Express two years ago, while everyone was throwing up inside (Moderate to Rather Rough was how the board put it) . This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Re: Crossing with Brittany Ferries during a gale! Both the outbound crossing and esp. Worst I've experienced was a high 8 in Bretagne, ride was a bit lively but she's a good seakeeper and no problems - still went to Les Abers. If you should be in Hong Kong you can't miss the Golden Bauhinia Square outside the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre on the Wan Chai waterfront scars the unification of Hong Kong with the motherland. * Incidentally - and this is perfectly true - the only time I have felt really very ill with motion sickness was on a non-stop Metropolitan Line train from Baker Street to Wembley Park! Eating in the restaurant when you first get on board before the ship reaches open sea is a good idea. With sea conditions at force 8, the car ferry began to be buffeted back and forth by the very strong waives and gale-force winds. Beaufort wind force scale The Beaufort scale, which is used in Met Office marine forecasts, is an empirical measure for describing wind intensity based on observed sea conditions. What is it like, is it uncomfortable and were the staff helpful if you felt ill? In fact myself and my sister both quite enjoyed the experience and were left for most of the trip on our own as mum and dad were confined to the cabin! As you said, eating in the Restaurant was great fun too First time I've ever eaten dinner with just a fork as my other hand was holding onto the wine bottle! Are you alarmed by the sharp increase in the frequency of attacks on foreigners in Australia, by fearsome drop bears? Ferry crossings from the Port of Dover were suspended earlier in the day due to "very rough" gale force conditions at sea. Why do people spend hours traveling to the beach, only to lay in the sun? (*We have never crossed the Irish Sea, however, we we understand can be very lively). Canna is a naturally sheltered landing, but a strong SW gale could cause the ferry to be cancelled, I guess. 7 is only really choppy for a good sized Ferry, they won't sail if it is dangerous. The company says both sailings could be postponed or cancelled and a final decision will be made by 7am tomorrow. When on a vom com, I like to spend most of a crossing on the outside deck watching the waves. that time and I dare to say here, on some other ships I wouldn´t have stayed asleep like that - on some ferries they get alot of "slamming" which makes alot of noise & wake everyone up but the Mont St. Michel seemed to cope very well and the movement, although there was alot of, was smooth. If holding BC Ferry reservations on the Vancouver or Victoria sailings please call 1-888-223-3779 to secure the most updated information. Also, in Hong Kong you can see the Symphony of Lights, you will surely get impress by this great little bit of art. I must say I've never had a problem on a proper ship, and I do recall some lumpy crossings on the Irish Sea over the years, the most recent being a rather stormy February 2000 crossing from Dublin to Holyhead on the Isle of Inishmore ... but I was ok. Fast craft are another matter, however. You can sign in to give your opinion on the answer. Size is related to how a Ship moves in the water, but not directly, other factors to do with the size, construction and physical 'makeup' of the Ship are what really determine how she will react to weather. Map shows power outages across Thanet (Image: UK Power Networks). A Met Office spokesman said winds could reach severe gale force nine, around 60 mph (97 km/h), this afternoon. 5 years ago. A few people braved eating in the self service, although watching them try and carry a tray was somewhat amusing. I think my roughest has got to be on the PA last May to Santander and back. Ponty handled it amirably I think though. 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